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Close the UX Bounty and Return Remaining Funds to the Treasury

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2 months ago
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This proposal requests the closure of the Polkadot UX Bounty and the return of its remaining funds to the treasury, due to persistent misaligned incentives, poor impact relative to spend, and structural issues in how the bounty is operated.

As detailed in this forum post:
https://forum.polkadot.network/t/a-case-study-in-misaligned-incentives-the-polkadot-ux-bounty/16275

  • Total spend to date is ~$340k, of which >80% has gone to curator-controlled addresses and “operational” costs, rather than to independent teams or ecosystem-wide UX improvements.
  • Roughly one-third of all funds have been directed to product-specific UX audits that produce non-reusable reports, with no clear evidence of measurable, ecosystem-level impact.
  • The bounty structure effectively turns curators into both gatekeepers and primary beneficiaries, incentivising continuous busywork (audits, coordination, internal initiatives) rather than high-leverage public goods.
  • Initiatives like the Polkadot-UI library were pushed against expert feedback, heavily promoted as “modern Polkadot tooling,” and yet show zero adoption, arguably harming developer perception rather than improving UX.

While some positive outcomes exist (e.g. address format unification, the Turtle grant), they are exceptions in an overall pattern of poor capital efficiency and misaligned incentives.

This proposal does not seek to punish individuals, but to acknowledge that the current UX bounty design has failed to deliver sufficient public good for its cost. Closing the bounty and returning the remaining funds to the treasury is, in my view, the responsible step so that future UX efforts can be funded under better structures, clearer mandates, and healthier incentives.

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2 months ago

As Josep is directly mentioning my work with polkadot-ui, some context concerning that from my side:

Many background info can be found in our public PM notion and anyone can make their own conclusions. https://polkadot-ux-bounty.notion.site/UXB-7-Unified-UI-Library-1bae1c2781f3803293a2e13982c6f153

https://polkadot-ui.com/ was one of the best researched projects before starting, and I fully stand behind it, as I think reusable react components is the way forward to outstanding UIs (also in Polkadot). We not contacted 13 stakeholders and against what is stated here that it was "pushed against expert feedback" the large amount was in favor of our approach. Josep thinks he is the only expert in the field of frontend libraries, but he is not. We also have milestone based payouts for the grant and introduced success based payouts of 20% of the total milestone amount. That level of carefulness is yet to be found in other grant applications. Also imo there are little (maybe opengov watch) other projects with the same level of diligence as the UX Bounty in terms of transparency, accounting and spendings tracking.

I wish we could have worked together on the library, I tried several times in a polite way, and I had great, collaborative, conversations with his two team members but Josep's ego cannot take other actors besides him. He also does not like that we collaborated with dedot which his ego also cannot take. We worked together with dedot very well and had very positive conversations, playing a key role in the development of typink, dedot's hook library. At sub0 there was much positive feedback too and the lack of users is a general problem in Polkadot at the moment not only visible in polkadot-ui. In an ecosystem that is already struggeling, Josep is playing with fire adding more toxicity pretending his actions are well researched and objective while he is deliberately picking enemies which he then bullies. The reason I do not want to work on the library anymore (for now) is him.

2 months ago

@niftesty 

Thanks for taking the time to respond and for sharing the Notion link. I’ve gone through it before, and again now.

I want to respond to a few concrete points, because I think some of what you wrote misrepresents both the situation and my position.


1. On “one of the best researched projects”

You wrote:

https://polkadot-ui.com/ was one of the best researched projects before starting, and I fully stand behind it…

From my perspective, this is exactly the problem.

A project that claims to be “one of the best researched” should at minimum have:

  • Validated that it can be used in at least one real existing OSS dApp, end-to-end.
  • Demonstrated a working reference dApp built by the authors themselves using the library.

Neither of these happened:

  • As far as I know, no existing OSS dApp was ever successfully ported or built on top of polkadot-ui.
  • Not even the project authors have been able to point to a single fully working, production-ready dApp that uses the library as intended.

Despite that, the library was heavily promoted:

  • Branded and marketed as “Polkadot UI”.
  • Pushed via official channels.
  • Strongly recommended to hackathon participants as if it were a polished, production-ready tool rather than an unvalidated experiment.

That’s exactly the gap I’m pointing at: the research may have involved calls, documents, and stakeholder interviews, but it didn’t validate the actual viability of the approach in real-world code before it was marketed as “the way to build modern Polkadot UIs”.


2. On ad hominem and responsibility

You also wrote:

Josep thinks he is the only expert in the field…
his ego cannot take other actors besides him…
he is deliberately picking enemies which he then bullies.
The reason I do not want to work on the library anymore (for now) is him.

This is exactly the kind of ad hominem that makes it hard to have a serious, technical discussion.

I’m criticising:

  • The approach taken with polkadot-ui,
  • The way it was promoted, and
  • The appropriateness of entrusting its development to a curator of the bounty who didn't have any experience building libraries.

That’s not the same as attacking you as a person. Saying “this design and this process are wrong for a treasury-funded, ecosystem-wide library” is not bullying; it’s criticism of work that is being presented as a public good.

I’d really prefer if we could keep the conversation at the level of decisions, outcomes, and use of treasury, rather than psychoanalyzing each other.


3. On “not being able to work with others”

You imply I “cannot take other actors besides me”, but my actual track record in this ecosystem says the opposite.

Just to name a few:

  • I assembled and work with the PAPI team that you like so much.
  • I collaborate on a daily basis with people from Parity, SoDa Zone, ParaSpell, Talisman, and others.
  • I’ve had many collaborations that are completely drama-free.

What I do have very little patience for is:

  • Development done from an ivory tower,
  • Without the authors themselves trying to validate their own abstractions, and
  • Without showing that real dApps can actually be built and maintained with the library.

It’s not about refusing to work with people; it’s about refusing to pretend that something works when all the evidence points the other way.


4. On feedback and stakeholder conversations

You mention:

We contacted 13 stakeholders and … the large amount was in favor of our approach. Josep thinks he is the only expert…

I don’t think I’m the only expert. I do think that:

  • A lot of people in this space don’t feel comfortable giving blunt negative feedback, especially when they expect pushback, long arguments, or emotional reactions in return. It is often easier to say “sounds cool” than to say “I don’t think this approach will work in practice”.
  • I was not the only person skeptical of the approach. Others expressed doubts too, some privately, some publicly. Are you certain that out of those 13 people interviewed I was the only one who was skeptical?

It’s very easy, to interpret polite or non-committal feedback as “support”.

The end result speaks louder than any stakeholder call: if after all that supposed support no one is actually using the library, not even you, that’s a much stronger signal than any number of “sounds good” calls.


5. On my stance toward a UI library (and Dedot)

I want to be very clear: I was never against building a UI library.

I was against:

  • Building it in this particular way,
  • With this abstraction strategy,
  • Without proving it in a real app,
  • While branding and promoting it as “Polkadot UI” before it had earned that position.

I genuinely gave it the benefit of the doubt:

  • I tried to use the library myself.
  • I failed to get something sensible working.
  • That’s exactly why I kept asking: “Can you show me a real dApp that effectively leverages this library?” Not to score points, but because my intuition was that the abstractions didn’t map well to reality.

On Dedot specifically: the statement

“He also does not like that we collaborated with dedot which his ego also cannot take.”

…is just false.

When I spoke with your colleague in Bali after the presentation, I explicitly recommended:

  • Dropping support for PAPI in polkadot-ui, and
  • Focusing solely on Dedot, because it made more sense to consolidate effort there rather than trying to support multiple underlying stacks.

That’s the opposite of being upset about your collaboration with Dedot.


6. Back to the core issue

All of this is happening in the context of a treasury-funded UX bounty that:

  • Picked one of its curators with no experience building libraries as the author,
  • Promoted it very heavily as a flagship piece of “modern Polkadot tooling”, and
  • Now has a library with <10 weekly downloads and no visible production usage.

My criticism isn't against you personally. I mean, I know that you take it that way, but that's not what it is. My criticism is that:

  • The process,
  • The incentives, and
  • The bar for validation

were nowhere near where they should be for something flying under the “Polkadot UI” banner and funded with treasury funds.

You’re free to stand behind the work. I’m free to point out that, by any reasonable standard of actual adoption and validation, it failed, and that pushing it as a default choice for developers was a mistake.

We can disagree on that. But turning that disagreement into “ego”, “bullying”, and “picking enemies” is not accurate and doesn’t help anyone.

2 months ago

Dear Proposer,

Thank you for your proposal. Our first vote on this proposal is AYE. Below is the evaluation of our voting policy v0.3 on this referendum:

TREASURER
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8 available members
🟢 3 • 🔴 0 • ⚪️ 1
✓ ≥50.0% required participation met
▶ Ayes ≥60.0% of all votes
🟢 AYE

Below is a summary of our members' comments:

Three voters supported closing the bounty while one abstained out of concerns regarding specific outcomes. Several expressed the need for a thorough restructuring that emphasized transparency and clearer evaluation of results. They noted that misaligned incentives and excessive operational expenses had resulted in funds being directed toward recurring audits and projects with limited broader impact. Criticism was aimed at the current model's tendency to reward busywork over meaningful public good, and one voter highlighted a particular audit outcome as problematic. Overall, the comments indicated that closing the program and reallocating funds was seen as a necessary step toward enabling a more efficient and transparent future UX strategy.

The full discussion can be found in our internal voting.

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